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20. 4. 2009 - 13:45

Today's webtip: Copyfight

Piratebay, Napster, Sony and home taping, lp's, piano roles, the end of printed music. Same fight, different decade.

Well, the Piratebay boys are looking at time behind schwedische gardinen, Monochrom has called out a full boycott of copyrighted materials, and the global media is doing a pretty good job of maintaining the status quo. So what's the big deal? A bunch of thieves got what they deserved and the future of western civilization has been secured. Things are good and we can all go about our business.

Right?

Well, there are those of us out there who have come to see things a little bit differently. Some people, see the music and film industries lawsuits and sponsored legislation as nothing more than an attempt at keeping dead or outdated business models alive. For others it's even more insidious. They see nothing less than the attempt to destroy the free distribution of information.

Es War Einmal...

In the good old days, the Publishers controlled not only what you could read, but which artists/authors/ideas would have access to your brains. They were a gateway whose business model thrived due to the expense of production and distribution. A business model who offered a valuable service to artists as well as consumers.

But now the times have changed, and production and distribution no longer requires massive resources and a boatload of capital. The artist/producer/idea could actually get their Intellectual Property out to an audience in an immediate and direct manner. There is no longer a scarcity of shelfspace. And that means some business models that were built off of that scarcity need some rethinking.

And some business types appear to have thunk that it's easier to keep distribution difficult, than it is to develop a new business model.

And that could mean that this glorious era of direct communication and publication might end up as nothing more than an anomaly. A freak moment in the river of history.

But I'm not here to make those arguments. There are much more capable people out there who have already done so. People who have been successful musicians, writers and publishers. People who have spent the last couple of decades embracing the changes we have faced while developing new models to help society (and business) get through them.

Your Only Alternative?

Tim O'Reilly is someone who has been thinking about the future of publishing for quite some time. Not just thinking about it, but doing his best to create it. In 2002 he wrote an article explaining his ideas about piracy, digital distribution and the future of publishing in an article entitled Piracy is Progressive Taxation, and Other Thoughts on the Evolution of Online Distribution . The Tools of Change site from O'Reilly is also a good starting point for reading ideas that you might not have heard on the evening news.

Of course, none of this is new, and many people have been watching the campaign of the copyright maximalists with alarm. And they have been doing it for several years. Johny Perry Barlow, lyricist for the Greatful Dead (a band that encouraged bootlegging) and founder of the Electronic Frontier Foundation wrote a surprisingly prescient article back in 1992. That article and a few other equally predictive tracts are talked about in a Tech Dirt article looking back at people who were looking forward.

And finally just in case you were under the impression that all copyleft advocates were a bunch of snotty nosed kids just looking for a chance to kick the captains of the music industry in the shins, there is another article at Tech Dirt that points out the work of one music executive who seems to have a clue. Too bad the rest of the company seems to be ignoring him.

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  • malheur | vor 294 Tagen, 1 Stunde, 33 Minuten

    no, hometaping in the 80s/90s and providing torrents in the 00s is just not the same. i loved tapes, i had entire albums on tapes or received and have given mixtapes. tapes were either about copying a really great record and giving it to a friend or about making something special for a buddy - or loved one, if youre lucky. it was about music, yes, but in equal parts, hometaping was about human interaction.

    you cannot compare providing and downloading a torrent with that. if you talk with a friend about your new favorite record, you don't say "ok, i'll burn you a CD next time i see you", you say "just download it". if you had downloaded that record before, then its not one copy anymore, its 2. you know about exponential things, and stuff, so we're talking about 1 file, but 130 000 downloads. sometimes even a day. no interaction.

    a tape is ONE TAPE that you give your friend.

    and that is the nagging little problem i have in this whole torrent discussion. i download stuff, oh yes. all the guilty pleasure shit like house music. but you...

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    • malheur | vor 294 Tagen, 1 Stunde, 30 Minuten

      oh yea

      i'm not saying that you personally are making that point, others are or might be tempted to fall into that trap.

    • daddyd | vor 293 Tagen, 8 Stunden, 27 Minuten

      Actually

      I know there is a difference when it comes to the personal interaction, but there are a few ways it is similar. To begin with , the music industry wanted to kill it, just like BT and filesharing.

      And when it comes to Bit Torrent (as opposed to other forms of p2p) most people actually only share the entire file 1 time. Or at least, most people share the same amount of data from any file as that which they downloaded. Some people might leave the torrent open for a ratio of 2, but that is pretty rare.

      But my point about taping and file sharing is that the industry reacted to both by telling law makers that it was the end of the world. It wasn't. And it isn't. It's just a change in business models. IN the case of digital, the fact of the matter is that the industry has coinsistently ignored the market. At first by ignoring the desire to purchase digital formats, and then when they could have partnered with an existing product that already had the entire market in its hand, they chose to destroy...

    • daddyd | vor 293 Tagen, 8 Stunden, 26 Minuten

      it, chase away the community, redesign it in a less attractive manner, and THEN start it as a business. One that was doomed to fail.

      And now that Apple came out with a model that works, they have still tried repeatedly to force them into a weaker position on the market. Not by introducing their own superior system, but by bitching and moaning and pulling content.

    • karlll | vor 293 Tagen, 5 Stunden, 14 Minuten

      I am still wondering what could be that mysterious new "business model" (it's mentioned in every piracy discussion) that can compete with "download for free".

    • malheur | vor 293 Tagen, 26 Minuten

      with that, dave, i totally agree. the reaction by the music industry is f'd up.

  • cheguevarawithblingon | vor 295 Tagen, 5 Stunden, 42 Minuten

    Might Google be next? Basically, you can use Google to search up rapidshare, megaupload, mediafire and all these other sites for music or videos someone uploaded. It works much better and faster than any torrent search and since usually someone uploaded these files for friends, I'm much more assured that the files are clean.
    So basically, Google supports piracy, more or less the same way piratebay did. I don't even want to talk about rapidshare and all the other sites.
    So is the music and film industry going after Google next or did they just play schoolyard bully and pick the small nerdy guy to beat?

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    • daddyd | vor 295 Tagen, 3 Stunden, 59 Minuten

      well

      we will see how long it takes.

      http://tinyurl.com/dbkcjz