Standort: fm4.ORF.at / Meldung: "Today's webtip: Copyfight round 3"

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Dave Dempsey

Dave Dempsey

Dave digs the Dirt, webtips, IT-memes and other online geekery. Also as Podcast.

22. 4. 2009 - 13:33

Today's webtip: Copyfight round 3

Music that wants to be shared. A list of alternatives.

Ok. You've heard one side screaming about the nasty pirates, and the other side calling for the death of the media industry (or at least a fullboycott) and now it's all getting a bit annoying and just a tad confusing.

I know that the research I have done in order to find a way to create a music podcast left me dazed and confused. The majors would have let me do an entire show based on 30 second clips, and more than a few of the CC people would have been cool with the whole thing except for that non-commercial claus. Playing commercials sort of makes you commercial.

I think.

Anyway, you have probably noticed that I make no music podcast. In the end it just wasn't worth it for me.

But the results of the research might be of some use to you. There are some great resources for potential podcasters, music fans, muicians and people who like to twist knobs and influence people. Net labels, online archives, and link collections pointing you toward tracks by musicians who value attention over CD sales.

Many of these have been webtips in the past.

One of the oldest, and greatest, and coolest projects has to be the Internet archives. They have a lovely collection of Open Source Music. I like it a lot. My music likes it too.
www.archive.org

As long as we are going to listen to open source, music, why not do it in an open source player? Songbird has some of the coolest features of any player out there, esepcially if you like browsing info about the bands as you listen to their tracks.
getsongbird.com

Opsound is a platform for musicians who want to share their tracks. I don't know how active it is, but there is a large selection of music to enjoy there.
opsound.org

Jamendo is probably the best known of the sites I have for you today. It was a webtip ages ago, and when I asked my people on twitter for their suggestions, it was the one mentioned the most. The site has a lot to aoffer and could swallow a LOT of time if you let it.
www.jamendo.com

Audi farm would appear to be like Jamendo, but with cows: www.audiofarm.org

For some of us, the whole copyright thing first became an issue in the form of sampling. The sampling wars made headlines back in the day. Remember Negativland and U2? Anyway, ccMixter is a site featuring samples and remixes of cc licensed materials. There are a few bits by big bands that tend to be only for non-commercial use, so pay attention if you are planning on using them in any music you might want cash for later on.
ccmixter.org

Potential podcasters should head straight to www.podsafeaudio.com do not pass go do not collect $200.

And finally, for those of you who want some help wading through the waters of free range music, you might want to check out some podcasts. the Creative Commons website has a list of some that you might want to check out.
wiki.creativecommons.org

That would also be a good place to inform yourself about the whole Creative Commons thing. The main page is probably as good a place to start as any.
www.creativecommons.org

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  • jacy | vor 1004 Tagen, 23 Stunden, 50 Minuten

    All taken care of

    Just to let anyone who stubles on to this thread know: the soundpark pages were removed...

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  • jacy | vor 1023 Tagen, 9 Minuten

    Thanks Ute and Manuva for the quick responses!

    Now that that SoundPark is "Under New Management", I think he should be able to take care of the problem.
    Point 3 seems to be the catch 22, though:
    "3. Die vorliegende Einverständniserklärung kann jederzeit ohne Einhaltung einer Kündigungsfrist per E-mail (soundpark.fm4@orf.at) widerrufen werden. Diesfalls wird der Content vom ORF/FM4 innerhalb einer Frist von 10 Werktagen ab Einlangen der E-mail aus der Datenbank entfernt."
    ... because I think the Original Email Address is used as Identification in this case, which he doesn't have anymore. Any tips on how he should go about providing "proof of ownership" to FM4 Soundpark, so that he can finally take care of this?
    He's been complaining about this for what seems like years now, which is the only reason I'm even posting here.
    I will respond here again, when the problem is erledigt, to make sure this thread doesn't remain without a conclusion - I don't want FM4 to look bad, since I'm sure there are a number of factors involved here...

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  • jacy | vor 1026 Tagen, 22 Stunden, 25 Minuten

    Does FM4 hold the copyright ... I forgot

    that the forum posts the latest comments first. And that there's a character limit. Sorry, I'm not späm-ming here on purpose. I should've just replied to my original post.

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  • jacy | vor 1026 Tagen, 22 Stunden, 29 Minuten

    Does FM4 hold the copyright... continued

    So I came here. Because I know you, Dave, are at least as paranoid as I am when it comes to privacy issues. Could you please help him out? Or is everything he put up on SoundPark the property of FM4 now?
    Keep up the good work - I visit your webtips page daily. I'll try not to be such a lurker in the future...

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    • utehoelzl | vor 1026 Tagen, 16 Stunden, 36 Minuten

      die rechte an den musikstücken bleiben beim artist - die einverständniserklärung nochmals zum nachlesen:
      http://tinyurl.com/cw8qrq

  • jacy | vor 1026 Tagen, 22 Stunden, 32 Minuten

    Does FM4 hold the copyright on SoundParked webpages?

    On a related note, a friend of mine uploaded some music to FM4's SoundPark. A good a place as any to start, btw, if you want music for a podcast - if you ask the artist nicely - because most of these people want their music to be heard and shared!
    Anyway, this friend of mine actually thought it was a good place to share music with like minded artists and even built a small fan base here in Austria with the help of SoundPark.
    He thought it was great.
    But suddenly the good feeling was gone when he realized that it was impossible to change or delete any pages he created. And like a FaceBook nightmare, he realized that he foolishly put up confidential information about himself including his full name, home address, birth date and birth place.
    Here's what he wrote to me yesterday: "complete silence from fm4 everytime i wrote to request that these two old soundpark pages either be deleted or that i be given access again (made both of them with email addresses i don't have access to anymore because i changed internet providers). lame."
    So I came here....

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    • manuva | vor 1026 Tagen, 16 Stunden, 53 Minuten

      fm4 soundpark

      es stimmt, änderungen auf einer fm4 soundparkseite (artistbild, infotext, einen neuen song freischalten) können nur die soundpark-administratoren, die man aber immer über soundpark.fm4@orf.at erreichen kann. auch das löschen einer seite sollte mit einem mail an das soundparkteam kein problem sein. bitte richte deinem freund aus, dass er es nochmal versuchen soll! es kann natürlich schon hin und wieder ein wenig dauern, bis alle änderungen vorgenommen werden. aber ein "complete silence from fm4" sollte es nicht geben... ;)